tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post6730460065694427107..comments2024-03-24T13:51:58.601-05:00Comments on Desert's Child: Legal Help RequestedKatie Sherrodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09159503802660122104noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-70208037834697867042007-10-23T11:16:00.000-05:002007-10-23T11:16:00.000-05:00Not much I can do as an Independent Catholic clerg...Not much I can do as an Independent Catholic clergywoman either--other than pray and help publicize the situation by linking to you on my blog. Hang in there!Dr. Laura Marie Grimeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10372741914558791844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-69215335409317725332007-10-20T20:54:00.000-05:002007-10-20T20:54:00.000-05:00Katie: I have no idea what to do from here-- dioc...Katie: I have no idea what to do from here-- diocese of Montana, several states away, and as a priest whose orders would not be recognized by anyone in authority there anyway... but I do hold you in prayer, and if there is anything more concrete you can think of that might help, please do say so.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I keep listening to Bp. Iker, and reading Title IV of the national canons, and wondering how long it will be before someone brings him up on presentment charges.Jane Ellen+https://www.blogger.com/profile/07930706962327994732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-87598452238634545352007-10-18T16:58:00.000-05:002007-10-18T16:58:00.000-05:00We understand the Dennis Canon just fine. What yo...We understand the Dennis Canon just fine. What you don't seem to understand is that when Iker walks away he will no longer be the Bishop of the Episcopal Dio. of Ft. Worth but there will still be an Episcopal Diocese. In fact, he will not be a bishop of anything that will be recognized by Canterbury.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-53580599665939709612007-10-17T23:06:00.000-05:002007-10-17T23:06:00.000-05:00Don't you understand the DEnnis canon, which is be...Don't you understand the DEnnis canon, which is being pushed by Bishop Lee in Virginia against Falls Church, et al, which holds that parish property is held for the benefit of the Diocese? Back in the 80s, it seems, the foun ders of the Ft. Worth diocese made the principle of the canon even more binding in their territory. But that's a detail. Why isn't the sauce for the orthodox geese in Virginia not sauce for the "new thing" ganders in Texas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-399170130696476092007-10-17T19:44:00.000-05:002007-10-17T19:44:00.000-05:00Ms. Katie,I want to express my appreciation and ad...Ms. Katie,<BR/><BR/>I want to express my appreciation and admiration for not censoring William Tighe's post which is so obviously contrary to your theological and ecclesiastical position. That is wholly unlike the treatment that he's received from conservative Anglican blogs such as StandFirm and T19.<BR/><BR/>As an example, please see this thread on The Midwest Conservative Journal:<BR/><BR/>http://themcj.com/3406#50617<BR/><BR/>P.S. This is a conservative Anglican blog too and so you probably won't appreciate it's theological convictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-58635143205968553132007-10-17T14:47:00.000-05:002007-10-17T14:47:00.000-05:00At least you got'em all stirred up at the Cafe and...At least you got'em all stirred up at the Cafe and Jake's. Way to go!<BR/>I don't know how often you hear this but --Thanks for telling it like it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-61203619338774667022007-10-16T22:24:00.000-05:002007-10-16T22:24:00.000-05:00I congratulate the Diocese of Fort Worth, and its ...I congratulate the Diocese of Fort Worth, and its bishops, Davies, Pope and Iker for their foresight and Catholic mind in realizing that WO (= women’s ordination) would inevitably, in the fullness of time and of iniquity, be followed on the same grounds by SS (= sanctified sodomy), and so, like good and farsighted shepherds, preparing in advance for the day when their flock under their apostolic guidance would come to an awareness of their predicament as orthodox believers yoked to an apostate “church,” and so be able to “shake the dust from their feet” and leave, taking their properties with them and thus outsmarting the thieves and robbers at 815 and their local accomplices. I salute you all, and hope that you will boldly fare forth from the House of Bondage, carrying not the spoils of Egypt, but your own goods with you—and may you be an example and a pole star to the good folk of Quincy and San Joaquin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-45306425784504348682007-10-16T22:12:00.000-05:002007-10-16T22:12:00.000-05:00I feel for you guys, really. Having been on the l...I feel for you guys, really. Having been on the losing side of some legal, or at least, Bartlett's Rule of Order fights, it sucks to lose. But as TEC has proven so well, if you've got the numbers and the regulations, you win. No matter what the right is. So, give in and rent a local hall for your meetings. That's what the other side has been trying, with some success. Best of luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-496831952941843642007-10-16T21:36:00.000-05:002007-10-16T21:36:00.000-05:00Jim, for years now, we've been told, "Don't worry,...Jim, for years now, we've been told, "Don't worry, they won't actually leave." "Don't worry, we [TEC] will take care of you." "Do everything you can to keep them from leaving." "Until they actually leave, we [TEC] can't do anything [no matter that "they" are blatantly violating all kinds of canon law]" "You need to be prepared to take care of yourselves" "Plans are being made--don't worry--but we can't tell you what they are." "We know you'll need help from neighboring dioceses, but you can't talk to the bishops of those dioceses and make any contingency plans, because that would constitute crossing diocesan borders." <BR/><BR/>Sorry, I don't trust much of anything at this stage. I'm still loyal to TEC--but honestly, considering the way they're treating those of us in these schismatic dioceses, I sometimes wonder if I'm out of my mind for wanting to stay an Episcopalian!Apostle In Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06892061835441144253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-33906408079852092172007-10-16T16:12:00.000-05:002007-10-16T16:12:00.000-05:00Do nothing. When, not if, when, the diocese claim...Do nothing. When, not if, when, the diocese claims it has discovered its Nigerian roots, Bonnie Anderson will discover a need to act and guess what, 815 will be calling you. National cannot stick a few loyal members of a disloyal diocese with the legal bills, and they cannot let the property go with the thieves. <BR/><BR/>The more I see B033, the NOLA statements, and the rest of the mess from 815, the more I realize we need some serious house cleaning after we loose the fundamentalist heretics to Africa.<BR/><BR/>FWIW<BR/>jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.com