tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post4575787153335746752..comments2024-03-24T13:51:58.601-05:00Comments on Desert's Child: “A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on.” Mark TwainKatie Sherrodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09159503802660122104noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-80583850205095954102007-12-13T21:56:00.000-06:002007-12-13T21:56:00.000-06:00Dear KatieI've thought about your blog entry for m...Dear Katie<BR/><BR/>I've thought about your blog entry for more than a month, because I didn't want to react immediately. I appreciate much of your writing and insight, but I have to say that I find some of your discourse around men somewhat alarming. I'm in no way a supporter of the positions articulated by Stand Firm. I'm a gay man who believes quite firmly in the virtue of inclusion in the church. I find your characterisation of the Stand Firm movement as somehow representative of a masculine position ('testosterone poisoning') offensive and somewhat sad. The world is full of negative messages about masculinity, and I think it is sad when this is perpetuated by intelligent and insightful Christian people. In my opinion, the issues that Stand Firm display are not related to masculinity - even an unhealthy sort of masculinity. They're related to fear, power and a sort of radical conservatism. Real masculinity has nothing to do with those things.<BR/><BR/>I think it is better, rather than applying epithets and slogans, to call a spade a spade.<BR/><BR/>I will continue to appreciate your writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-16307934559300758232007-11-26T22:15:00.000-06:002007-11-26T22:15:00.000-06:00About 20 years ago, I told my FW priest that I fel...About 20 years ago, I told my FW priest that I felt called to be a priest. He told me to leave ECUSA, and become a RC. "You are leaving yourself open to agony, staying in the Episcopal Church" he told me. Further, he stated that the women's ordination was not the REAL issue - it was gay ordination. "If we start ordaining women, we will have to ordain gays" he told me.<BR/><BR/>I looked at him like he was Mars... But you know what, he was right - one naturally leads to the other. <BR/><BR/>Based on my experience, I don't agree with you in totality. As I am a huge proponent of women's ordination, I don't think the fear is women - I think these men are fearful of their own sexuality. After all, where there is smoke, there is fire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-36171071266948015352007-11-06T12:00:00.000-06:002007-11-06T12:00:00.000-06:00I take offense at your assertion that any woman wh...I take offense at your assertion that any woman who supports the orthdox view is either stupid, sexist, or trying to be a "good girl". I assure you that I'm not "being used by men to further their goals". In fact, my husband would prefer that I give up on TEC, and just let it go. <BR/>I also would like to state that I'm not angry, hateful or homophobic, but still disagree where the church is being led as I believe the Bible is the Word of God which cannot change.<BR/>Prayers are with you all - God Bless.Cyndeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651194951312738730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-13513848692530274202007-11-05T08:05:00.000-06:002007-11-05T08:05:00.000-06:00Yup!While Bp. Harris was being slandered on SF, I ...Yup!<BR/><BR/>While Bp. Harris was being slandered on SF, I was having dinner with a long time friend. We go back to our highschool days in the 60's. He broke into a raving scream of anger at PB Katherine, TEC, me, my wife, and the "left" that took my breath away. He was driving, screaming at me and pounding on the dash. <BR/><BR/>Why, because this six figure a year lawyer is envious, of the West Coast rich who drive cars he cannot afford. I could not make that up! That is why he was shouting. Somehow the Lambegini, and it is a pistol on wheels, because other people drive them, and he does not, makes the fact that mere women, Jews, liberals, gays, lesbians, all the people he needs to feel superior to, aren't all that inferior.<BR/><BR/>;;sigh;;<BR/><BR/>I guess I never had to be superior to anyone. I wonder what is wrong with my DNA?<BR/><BR/>Maybe it is a simple function of actually listening to the parable of the laberors.<BR/><BR/>FWIW<BR/>jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-25767443891500249832007-11-05T07:55:00.000-06:002007-11-05T07:55:00.000-06:00Very well said, Katie! Funny how i was just havin...Very well said, Katie! <BR/><BR/>Funny how i was just having a conversation with my partner the other day about misogyny, straight white male privilige, racism and homophobia, then the folks over at Stagger Limply provide such an example.Roryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033349799774692900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-43833002212904537722007-11-04T21:59:00.000-06:002007-11-04T21:59:00.000-06:00How long have you known Greg? Have you met his wi...How long have you known Greg? Have you met his wife? His daughter? What can you tell us about your experiences getting to know all of them, have you sat down around the table as I have and shared stories and dreams and hopes and sorrows and tears? <BR/><BR/>Perhaps we should all remember that moment when Jesus wrote in the sand - and let us put down our rocks. All of our houses are made of glass.<BR/><BR/>bbAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490745238430648958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-15981178100753955352007-11-04T18:49:00.000-06:002007-11-04T18:49:00.000-06:00Thanks Katie, for naming the underlying issue - se...Thanks Katie, for naming the underlying issue - sexist piggery. What a sad commentary on the state of the Church.Fr. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647311951078750640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25082628.post-19875054286588286322007-11-04T12:42:00.000-06:002007-11-04T12:42:00.000-06:00Brilliant job, Katie. Brava!Brilliant job, Katie. Brava!Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.com